Sound Thinking

Daniel Brouse er, a… the problem with the hum of the universe… is sound doesn’t travel through space

Nehal Mankad vibrations travel though. plus i think “the hum of the universe, as hindu’s know it, is probably the hum of the ionosphere.

Daniel Brouse sound vibration doesn’t travel through a vacuum. but what i think they are talking about… is the “sound” of the big bang. that universal hum was converted to sound by humans “Despite a promising name, the Big Bang was silent — a sudden burst of energy in which time and space began”

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Daniel Brouse here’s a sample: http://www.wolfram.com/mathematica/customer-stories/mathematica-simulates-the-sound-of-the-big-bang.html

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Nehal Mankad no no, i’m talking about this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

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Daniel Brouse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance

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Daniel Brouse that’s the 7.83 in the formula… but the formula doesn’t make sense. 1) the universe doesn’t have a hum… 2) if it did, schuman’s resonance would just be one of the instruments playing in the universal orchestra? Solution: “The Conductor” combines together all the other resonating instruments in the universe.

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Nehal Mankad oh yeah. indian music is BASED on this theory. that’s the purpose of the drone sound in the sitar.

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Daniel Brouse nice. the Om chant is related to all this too… some people believe it’s suppose to be: “chanting Om in the physical universe corresponds to the original vibration”

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Nehal Mankad yeah

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Nehal Mankad that’s what i’m trying to plug into einstein’s formula..

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Daniel Brouse alright… that’s easy… Om = E

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Nehal Mankad yeah exactly! when c = 7.83

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Daniel Brouse hmmm… i’m not sure about that c = 186,000

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Daniel Brouse i had a physicist friend do a similar calculation for me that might help: http://ygraine.membrane.com/enterhtml/live/Lite/EJCBCOED.html

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Daniel Brouse so, if c = 7.83 we need to know of what units. 186,000 m/s or if you want joules — 6.5e18 joule

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Nehal Mankad oh i meant hertz

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Daniel Brouse hmmm… well c is a constant… the speed of light. it can be converted to joule… but i don’t think it can be converted to hertz in a rational way.

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Daniel Brouse here is a quasi-formula: Electromagnetic energy has a dual nature, both particle and wave. Which nature is revealed depends on the wavelength (or frequency) vs the scale of matter it is reacting with. At higher energies (shorter wavelengths, higher frequency), the particle nature is more evident and each photon has a discrete energy:

E = h*nu, or
E = h*c/lambda
where E is the photon energy
h = Plank’s constant
nu is the frequency
lambda is wavelength.

In SI units, h is expressed in joules, although it is also commonly expressed in electron volts. Infrared radiation of approximately 1240 nm has an energy of 1 electron volt.

3 electron volts corresponds to blue light of 413 nm, and 4 eV is getting to be nasty UV of 310 nm. 5 eV will break O2 bonds and form ozone.

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Nehal Mankad hmm… c is the speed of light? i thought it was “some vibration”. yeah that’s where i get tripped up here..

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Daniel Brouse correct… energy equals mass times the speed of light squared

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Nehal Mankad hmm.. so mass * the speed of light equals the vibration?

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Daniel Brouse mass * (speed of light squared) or mass * 34596000000 miles per second

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Nehal Mankad hmm… so that equals the vibration?

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Daniel Brouse you could say that… it equals the energy… if you like, you can create a vibration with your energy.

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Nehal Mankad hmm.. so there’s probably a little more to this..

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Daniel Brouse yes. sound doesn’t convert in space. i’ve been working on this problem for quite a long time. imagine you wanted / had to go on a long space voyage… which we’ll call The Roadtrip… the roadtrip might last many, many, many years… so, you’d want to be able to listen to a lot of tunes. how can I take my band with me?

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Daniel Brouse the only solutions we’ve been able to come up with involve tricking the brain… using some substitute, such as, light (Mr. Holland’s Opus)… or stimulating the brain with some sort-of implant. that is to say — we don’t know how to convert sound to energy in an efficient way.

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Daniel Brouse http://engineering.mit.edu/live/news/1809-can-sound-be-converted-to-useful-energy

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Daniel Brouse this might also be of interest to you… i have what is known as “chromesthesia”… which means i can hear in color. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia